{"id":738,"date":"2014-07-24T10:34:43","date_gmt":"2014-07-24T17:34:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/messofpottage.com\/blog\/?p=738"},"modified":"2014-07-24T10:34:43","modified_gmt":"2014-07-24T17:34:43","slug":"multisite-and-bivocational-ministry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/messofpottage.com\/blog\/2014\/07\/24\/multisite-and-bivocational-ministry\/","title":{"rendered":"Multisite and Bivocational Ministry"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the topics we discussed yesterday, when I was meeting with some local pastors, was the megachurch-and- branch-campus model used by churches like <a href=\"http:\/\/saddleback.com\">Saddleback<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/northpoint.org\">North Point<\/a>. (This model is also important to <a href=\"http:\/\/mppc.org\">Menlo Park Presbyterian Church<\/a>, as discerned by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/gleanings\/2014\/march\/john-ortberg-megachurch-leave-pcusa-multisite-eco-menlo-par.html?paging=off\">Christianity Today<\/a> but &mdash; curiously &mdash; not <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\/news\/2014\/3\/7\/john-ortbergs-menlo-park-presbyterian-votes-leave-\/\">the PC(USA) in its own reporting<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>None of the pastors I met with were very enthusiastic about this model. We can look at a John Ortberg or an Andy Stanley and recognize what great preachers they are, but it&#8217;s hard to be enthusiastic about being a &#8220;campus pastor&#8221; with modest or minimal opportunities to preach. (This emphasis on sermonizing is reflected in the polity of the PC(USA), where pastors are &#8220;teaching elders&#8221; &mdash; and before that, &#8220;ministers of Word and sacrament.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>But the pastors I met with were all full time ministers. There are reasons to believe we are not the wave of the future. Rather, the church seems to be moving toward a model of bivocational pastors, as described last year <a href=\"http:\/\/pres-outlook.org\/2013\/03\/full-time-called-pastor-as-an-endangered-species\/\">in the Presbyterian Outlook<\/a>, where pastors have a day job to pay the bills, in addition to their vocation as a pastor. This week, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/business\/archive\/2014\/07\/higher-calling-lower-wages-the-collapse-of-the-middle-class-clergy\/374786\/\">Atlantic<\/a> wondered about this trend:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Working multiple jobs is nothing new to pastors of small, rural congregations. But many of those pastors never went to seminary and never expected to have a full-time ministerial job in the first place. What\u2019s new is the across-the-board increase in bi-vocational ministry in Protestant denominations both large and small, which has effectively shut down one pathway to a stable\u2014if humble\u2014middle-class career.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What happens when you combine this trend with the multi-campus, multi-venue model with the trend toward part-time ministry?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the topics we discussed yesterday, when I was meeting with some local pastors, was the megachurch-and- branch-campus model used by churches like Saddleback and North Point. (This model is also important to Menlo Park Presbyterian Church, as discerned by Christianity Today but &mdash; curiously &mdash; not the PC(USA) in its own reporting.) 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